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'Tis Not So Deep As A Well, Nor So Wide As A Church-Door; But 'Tis Enough, 'Twill Serve. [Jul. 8th, 2009|02:17 pm]
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We just got some bad, disappointing news.

We won't be able to move back to the apartment for another three months, and that after the demolition and repair of most of the interior walls.

Apparently the water infiltration is sufficient that the insurance company wants to pull the walls out for fear of mold; all the walls in the dining room and back hallway, and at least one wall in the bedroom, kitchen, and bathroom. I presume the ceilings would go as well.

Even after the rebuilding, there is the question of how well they will rebuild. Currently we have plaster walls, nine foot ceilings, and handsome Victorian woodwork. When the current landlord moved in, they had minor children, and had to remediate the lead paint upstairs. They're also poor. All of the woodwork was just ripped out, and the doors are simply blank holes in the wall now. Would we be left with frameless doors and windows, dropped ceilings, and cheapest-possible materials?

The back bedroom and the front room don't need work; we could box everything and store it in these (sealed) rooms until the work was done. We would then need to find a place to stay for three months. Then we'd need to move back in and re-assemble our lives just as we expect Mrs. Professor to have to be moving our 100-person company into new quarters also.

We need to sit with this for a while, recover somewhat from the hit, and make some decisions. Do we stay, and ride out the storm of inconvenience and destruction, or do we find a new place to live? If we do move – where to? Our neighborhood has gotten surprisingly pricy in the last 20 years. Quincy/Randolph is near many of our friends and services, but a longer commute. Waltham/Watertown is close to work, but otherwise inconvenient – and assumes that these jobs will continue to exist. All of the other towns around here are horse suburbs, with a mean house cost in the millions. Further west, say, Framingham, puts on the Mass Turnpike in the densest traffic jams both ways.

I confess I am angry and saddened to the point of distraction at this development.
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[User Picture]From: [info]rowantwig
2009-07-08 06:27 pm (UTC)

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Wow, this is difficult news right now. No choice seems the obvious route, and you know nothing will be easy.

The only words I can offer are that if you do move you may be surprised by the positive results; I have always been, even when dragged kicking and screaming into the move.

I hope all this is as painless as possible.
[User Picture]From: [info]digitalemur
2009-07-08 06:27 pm (UTC)

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I don't know what the answer is, and I'm so sorry you guys are going through this. It is more than ample reason to be upset. I hope that you two can find ways to relax and be good to yourselves, as you mull over your options.
[User Picture]From: [info]thefourthvine
2009-07-08 06:29 pm (UTC)

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Oh, man, I'm so sorry.
[User Picture]From: [info]firynze
2009-07-08 06:32 pm (UTC)

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I confess I am angry and saddened to the point of distraction at this development.

I think that is an entirely reasonable reaction. This is awful news, and a terrible choice to have to be making. I'm so sorry, Prof.
[User Picture]From: [info]erisreg
2009-07-08 06:35 pm (UTC)

angry and saddened

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that sucks, my sympathies,..not a good time to have to play household roulette,..o.o
[User Picture]From: [info]sarakate
2009-07-08 06:36 pm (UTC)

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Oh, ouch. I'm so sorry. That's really tough.
[User Picture]From: [info]floundah
2009-07-08 06:37 pm (UTC)

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Oh shit. I am terribly sorry to hear this, and I am not sure what to say. You and Mrs. Professor need to sleep on this one and avoid any hasty decisions.

((((Hugs))))
[User Picture]From: [info]platypus
2009-07-08 06:39 pm (UTC)

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Oh no! It sounds like you basically need a new apartment at this point. Your landlord doesn't have anything else open? I suppose it's for the best that they're not going to just say 'oh, it'll be fine, mold schmold' and send you right back in; surely they wouldn't advocate extreme repairs if they weren't likely to be necessary. But what an awful situation.
[User Picture]From: [info]liddle_oldman
2009-07-08 06:41 pm (UTC)

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My landlord is the guy who bought my father-in-laws two-family we were living in the other floor of. It's just his house, with a rental unit.

If we were in a development, this would indeed be easier!
[User Picture]From: [info]interactiveleaf
2009-07-08 06:42 pm (UTC)

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Oh my goodness. This is indeed a warm pile o' crap. You have my sympathies.
[User Picture]From: [info]travellight
2009-07-08 07:04 pm (UTC)

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Not to get all Scarlett on you, but tomorrow is another day. A million things could happen. You can think about this tomorrow. I'll help you.
[User Picture]From: [info]ratphooey
2009-07-08 07:20 pm (UTC)

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I think the universe is telling you to move.

Quincy/Randolph sounds the best option - how much longer is the commute? A little time there is a fair trade for being closer to friends and services.
[User Picture]From: [info]liddle_oldman
2009-07-08 08:13 pm (UTC)

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Quincy -- the city I used to live in before we got married -- is just south of Dorchester, where we live now. There is a river (the Neponset) dividing the two. And there are three lanes across the river for everyone to get across in the morning.

The commute is only a mile or two more, but that bottleneck is a killer.
[User Picture]From: [info]siercia
2009-07-08 08:21 pm (UTC)

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There are numerous ways to get around that bottleneck if you have to, depending on where exactly in Quincy you end up.

Thought that effin' bridge is a nightmare of a disaster.
[User Picture]From: [info]aethera21
2009-07-08 07:41 pm (UTC)

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Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear that!

You could try a short-term rental via Craigslist. People often rent their apts/houses for just a few months, and it might be more cost-effective. I don't know what a reasonable rent is for you, or I'd go take a look.
[User Picture]From: [info]liddle_oldman
2009-07-08 08:14 pm (UTC)

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That's actually on the table. We'll have to do something like that if we decide to stick.
[User Picture]From: [info]martina_d
2009-07-08 07:43 pm (UTC)

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Oh, man, I'm so sorry! That is not good at all. I hope it's at least small consolation to you that, if you do end up moving, this is probably a good time to find a better deal than if you had gone through this a year or two ago? Best of luck; what a difficult decision.
[User Picture]From: [info]hykue
2009-07-08 07:47 pm (UTC)

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I'm so sorry all this has happened to you guys *hugs*
[User Picture]From: [info]siercia
2009-07-08 08:06 pm (UTC)

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I just e-mailed you details about the apartment I know about. It might be a reasonable compromise on cost/commute/closeness to Quincy etc.

Hugs to you both
[User Picture]From: [info]liddle_oldman
2009-07-08 08:15 pm (UTC)

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I have intermittent access to my Comcast account. (Though I'll try to go access it now!)

Thanks!

Edited at 2009-07-08 08:17 pm (UTC)
[User Picture]From: [info]siercia
2009-07-08 08:19 pm (UTC)

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Resent!
[User Picture]From: [info]heartbreakangel
2009-07-08 08:14 pm (UTC)

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I can see where the insurance company has a point with the immediate mold remediation. They have absolutely no way of knowing if any that grows in the walls will be the toxic black crap that makes everyone deathly ill, or if it'll just be some variation on green gunk, which can also make you ill. It's a basic CYA strategy, so if someone were to get sick down the line, they can't turn around and go "But the insurance company didn't say we had to rebuild, we're going to SUE THEM!". It does totally suck, though, especially with how things are right now with property rates.

I say let this sit and percolate for a few days, see if the shock and sudden whack of emotion eases off a little. Then start poking around through apartment ads and such things, and get a game plan worked out for where you two can reasonably afford to bail to if you decide not to stick with this place. If nothing else, you'll start amassing leads and will have a backup plan in case something goes on where something gets decided down the line that may force your hand with all of it.
[User Picture]From: [info]liddle_oldman
2009-07-08 08:17 pm (UTC)

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I keep whining, "But, why can't they just vent the walls and dry them???"

That's not unlike our current plan, actually. (The waiting and the looking).
[User Picture]From: [info]heartbreakangel
2009-07-08 08:20 pm (UTC)

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Ha. Yeah, that would be a logical approach if someone could drum up a system to do that that'd actually work. It'd be nifty to be able to do something like open a panel on a wall and start airing everything out.
[User Picture]From: [info]_freethinker_
2009-07-08 08:53 pm (UTC)

Silver Lining?

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Is it possible that you & Mrs. Professor could purchase a home? I mean, if you are going to be inconvenienced, maybe you could live cheap for three months, and start over in your owned home.
[User Picture]From: [info]liddle_oldman
2009-07-08 09:25 pm (UTC)

Re: Silver Lining?

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A cheap, shabby, small house in a bad neighborhood here costs better than a quarter million. We gave up the idea of buying a house after our first attempt. Sad, but true.

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[User Picture]From: [info]_freethinker_
2009-07-08 09:46 pm (UTC)

Re: Silver Lining?

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I've heard of such situations in bigger cities. That's not how it should be but reality is rarely fair. A new apartment then, maybe. I hope insurance is covering some of your extra expenses. Oh well, at least your virtual home isn't on fire. :)
[User Picture]From: [info]miss_prissy
2009-07-08 10:52 pm (UTC)

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That SUCKS!!! I'm sorry. *hugs*
[User Picture]From: [info]bill_sheehan
2009-07-09 12:53 am (UTC)

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Woe, grief, and misery! Being uprooted is tough enough, but when all the options are hazy and full of potential pitfalls, it's that much tougher.

[User Picture]From: [info]hawkdancer
2009-07-09 02:27 am (UTC)

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What an unpleasant situation! Good luck!
[User Picture]From: [info]bigmeanie
2009-07-09 02:40 am (UTC)

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I wish I were moving out of my apartment in Belmont now, instead of five-plus years ago. (Oh, OK, except that I love living in Maine, etc.) I had a great 3-BR apartment in a 2-family house (with garage parking and a YARD and a terrific landlord and great neighbors) for <1k rent. I totally would have encouraged my landlord to rent to you and Mrs. Professor.

Since I can't do that, I will hope for the best for you!
[User Picture]From: [info]offensive_mango
2009-07-09 09:45 am (UTC)

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I cannot imagine how hard this all must be. I hope you can find something that's just as good or better, or that they rebuild suitably. OR you could both thrown it all in, buy a big ass motor home, and tour the Yoo Ess uv Aye.
[User Picture]From: [info]may_lyn
2009-07-09 08:28 pm (UTC)

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oh, man, i am sorry.

but we're the poster children of nothing going as planned, are we not?